Grrrr.... (glares at Lee and Smoke).... basement with padded walls so that Fleur can stay upstairs while Bill and Lupin "play" downstairs.... and with Fenrir still making new werewolves, what happens when some FEMALE werewolves join Lupin's "pack"? Did Bill take Wolfsbane, to see if it would have any effect on him? How about a nice sleeping draught so at least he doesn't whack his brothers next time? C'mon, Alpha Bill, Alpha Bill!! No????? Hmmm.... Alpha Fleur, Alpha Fleur!!! (so that Bill can be in FLEUR's "pack" and 'cuz you two need a new challenge to write...)
The part that touched me the most in this chapter was when Bill looked at himself in the mirror and dropped his eyes in shame. I think it's a deep issue that Bill will have to work out for himself in months to come; the answer for him won't be the same as Lupin's answer for himself. Thanks for writing, you two! You're both very talented writers. And I'll be waiting here for Alpha Fleur... heh-heh!
Author's Response: You noticed how we neatly skated around the issue of female werewolves? Hee. Females have their own hierarchy, and that's for another story. As is Alpha!Fleur. As for Bill’s issues. Yes, shame is one of them. Not just the scar itself, but how he got it and what it represents. Remus is doing his best to help (yes, he is!), to show Bill that he is strong, and has a right to be proud. Thanks for all the reviews; they’ve been a pleasure to read. It’s humbling to know that something I write can move another enough to yell at the computer when they’re reading. A funny gauge, perhaps, but it works for me! -smoke
Author's Response: Wolfsbane! Aha, see *I* asked about that too, but my much smarter co-writer reminded me that there is no canon indication that Remus has been able to obtain Wolfsbane since his year teaching at Hogwarts. Not to mention that even if he *had* been taking it up until the end of HBP, he doesn't exactly have a Potions Master anymore to make it for him, or for Bill. Thus, Wolfsbane was out, as a plot device. :) As for female werewolves, you know, they didn't actually occur to me in this story, but I am working on a longer, novel-length werewolf story in which there is one very prominent (OC) female werewolf. So, you might see that around here sometime in the future, if you're interested! As smoke said, thank you for the passionate reviews! They have been a delight for us, even when you disagreed with the story. :) ~Lee
What a nice ending and I'm surprised how sort of uncomplicated it was. Both Remus and Bill get to enjoy each others "company" and have their lovely women too. Hot story!
Author's Response: Well, for the original complicated ending, see the end of chapter 1 - which was the extent of the original one-shot! Things do get rather neatly resolved here, but we thought we owed Bill a happy ending. If you read any other stories of mine you will see that this is a rare indulgence on my part. :) ~Lee
Author's Response: Happy, or uncomplicated, endings tend to be a bit of a stretch for Lee. ;) She was sweet to indulge me on this, especially as it was her story to start. -smoke
I cannot express to you the full measure of my delight when I logged on this morning to check on my own story and found your last installment right next to mine! So I immediately devoured this chapter, then took a break, and savored it again. And later I'm going to have to go back and re-read the whole story straight through. I want to leave you a proper review, and go point by point, but I fear that I'm not capable. Because when I scroll back through the chapter to pick out a point or two to highlight as my favorites, I get drawn back into the story.
I've been looking forward to the resolution with Fleur. It was just enough, and not too much. Forgiveness without forgetting, and beautifully in-character. Tonks too, being disappointed that she can't be everything for Remus but understanding enough to give him his space. And Molly in this chapter... you've got me in tears.
I believe you started this story with PWP intentions, but I have to tell you that what kept me watching for updates was not the (very hot) porn bits, but your treatment of the characters, and exploration of their emotional depths. Yup, character development with just enough plot to keep it interesting. Well, and it was pretty darn hot too. I never expected to be quite this drawn in by 2 men fucking each other senseless.
I have really enjoyed your story, and will be on the lookout for more from the two of you! Thank you for an entertaining read.
Author's Response: Oh wow, what a nice review! We're so glad you've enjoyed the story. I'm especially glad the resolution with the respective women worked for you - I was a bit nervous about that. Thanks for reading! ~Lee
Author's Response: Thank you for saying such nice things. This did, indeed, start life as a PWP by Snegurochka – something she wrote for me. The response, or rather, Bill’s response came immediately and I couldn’t not write it. From there, it was game-on for the both of us. Good thing our ideas of where it should go messed so well. ;-)
Author's Response: OMG! That's meshed so well, not messed so well! -smoke
Wow! This story is incredibly intense! I particularly like the way you decribe smells with such detail.. Powerful stuff, and very nice characterizations of the two werewolves.. Please update again soon! ~Gregory
Author's Response: Thank you! The final chapter should be along this week, in fact. :) ~Lee
typo.... I meant "Is Lupin trying to split up Bill and Fleur??" (I'd like to split up Lupin and Tonks...)
Author's Response: Ha. Not telling! *zips lip* :) ~Lee
Grrrrr.... newby alpha wolf.... has a year's teaching experience at Hogwarts.... The moon was less than twelve hours away and NOW Lupin tells Bill that this close to the moon, you must stay away from Fleur? And then Lupin tells Tonks - but not Bill - that Tonks must tell Fleur to make sure he stays away from her during the two or three days before the moon, and especially the day after? Like, why didn't alpha Lupin tell this to Bill two or three days before the moon??? Is Lupin playing games, or just being a bad teacher and bad alpha? Is Lupin trying to split up Bill and Tonks?? "Oh, BTW, Bill, now that Fleur hates you, I should've told you three days ago...." Grrr....
Author's Response: Your passionate responses are always a treat to read, June! You are correct that Remus's skills as an alpha are still being developed. He has *some* experience with it, as we've hinted, but Bill is the first 'pack' member he's had to deal with while in the Wizarding world, rather than in the forest - thus, things like a pack member's human fiancee have never figured into his plans or behaviour before. Because of that, he didn't tell Bill to stay away from Fleur earlier in the story (chapter 3, for instance) because Remus didn't yet realise that it would be necessary. He thought Bill would submit to him faster, and never imagined Bill would take his sexual frustrations out on Fleur instead of on Remus.
Once he *did* begin to realise Bill was headed in that direction, though (see chapter 5), Remus did warn Bill that if he didn't learn to control himself, and his lust, that "someone he loved would get hurt." You're right that he still didn't outright order Bill to stay away from Fleur, but that is only because a.) Bill had been overtly disobeying his direct orders anyway, and b.) he thought Bill would get the hint. Chapter 6 showed that Remus should never have given Bill so much credit. ;-)
As for sending Tonks to talk to Fleur... well, that's just a handy device for getting the ladies out of the way, now, isn't it? *wink* He's definitely not trying to deliberately ruin Bill's relationship with Fleur - as you will see in the final chapter.
Hope that clarifies things! Thanks for the review. :) ~Lee
I am in tears. See? Real tears. This is so beautiful and wretched all at the same time. In most writer's hands this would be PWP, but you've got the sex heightening the tension surrounding the emotions swirling around Bill.
You've spoiled me. Yours is the first slash I ever read, and I want more, but you've spoiled me for other writers. Darn you.
Author's Response: Thank you so much! I'm glad you're enjoying this. (Look, Lee, look! Another slash convert!) Both of us, I believe, (usually) try to write our stories with a bit of... well... story. We've both written several other things, (Lee's a writing machine!) but this is our first collaboration. Hope you check out our other stuff, scattered around the archives. Between us, we about cover them all. -smoke
You are effing amazing. I still think you're writing Remus with a streak of tenderness and loving. He is taking care of Bill, in the most caring of ways. I loved the detail of locking the door, and reminding us that Bill works for a bank. I am intrigued by the idea of the full moon being more difficult for Bill because he can't transform. I'm interested to see what you do with that. I also think it is delightful that you're planning to set Fred and George to guard Bill. I've got shivers, your writing is just so good.
Author's Response: Thanks for this! What a nice review. I am indeed trying to write Remus sympathetically, as much as this is possible when the plot began with something I'm sure many readers found abhorrent. And yes, once the full moon comes, much more will be revealed... stay tuned! I'm so glad you're enjoying it. :) ~Lee
(holds head in hands) What have you done, Smoke and Lee?? Instead of fighting with Muggles, Bill should've gone out after some Death Eaters to take his anger, and his rage in a useful way. Kill, Bill! What if Bill just went to a professional Dom every month? Hmm, could Bill just take an extra-strength sleeping potion (Draught of Living Death or something) for the few days leading to the full moon? (reader still wants to castrate Lupin... "Do thank your mother for dinner for me, would you?" Ooh! "I protect what’s mine" - yeah, like he protected his best friend Sirius when Sirius sat in Azkaban for 12 years when he was innocent. That kind of "protection" I wouldn't need! Grrr... 'scuse me, reader has to go back and eat more fruitcake now...)
Author's Response: But being out of control - regardless of who he takes it out on - is not good. He's got to learn control, not avoid the issue. A professional Dom? lol! Problem is, he wants to do it his way - that's the whole problem. As for Sirius, no dragging him into this! That was an entirely different issue.
I love the way you engage with the story and I really look forward to your reviews. They make my day! -smoke
Author's Response: A professional Dom? Dear June! You simply must read smoke's BDSM story at Eros & Sappho - you will see that Bill is indeed doing exactly what you suggest. ;-) ~Lee (couldn't resist...)
I love this, the back and forth is done so well keep up the good work.
Author's Response: Thank you!
Oh man! Please don't keep us waiting! You both just keep surprising me with the depth of this. I really don't think PWP aptly describes this fic. I suppose it was only inevitable that Bill would hurt Fleur, but I felt so bad for him anyway. (and for her). I am completely in love with your characterisations of Bill and Remus. It's been said before, but I'll have to agree, the transitions between authors are seamless. I just absolutely adore this story! [/babbling]
Author's Response: Babble away - lol! Thanks so much for the kind words. We're having a great time writing this, and I'm glad it's working so well.
Okay, I've got this idea..... post one version of this fic at wolfsbane, and another version (Alpha Bill! Alpha Bill!) here at Burrow. Isn't that a wonderful idea? (makes puppy eyes at authors.... not working? makes werewolf eyes at authors and bares fangs.... grrrrr.... oops, must remove dental floss from fangs...)
Author's Response: Ha! Don't think we can do that, quite, but stay tuned: Bill is no shrinking violet here. He may not be the Alpha, but he is a damned strong (pseudo)werewolf, and he isn't taking any of this shit lying down. :) ~Lee
Author's Response: ...he isn't taking any of this shit lying down.
No, mostly he's taking it bent over a counter or shoved up against a wall. *snort*
Two versions? Kind of a "choose your own ending" thing? Hmmm. Probably not. ;-) -smoke
I love you....hehe, kinky werewolf sex is great. I love Bill's characterization by the way...still a GUY even if he does have to play the sub...
Author's Response: Thank you! Oh yes, Bill is still very much a guy here - and smoke is doing a great job writing his POV. :) ~Lee
Grumble.... still doesn't sound like a healthy werewolf relationship to me... So Lupin has learned he doesn't behave the same way when isolated from the rest of his species - meaning that if Lupin and Bill avoid each other, they won't have any "problems" between them? But he doesn't tell this to Bill... It seems like Remus is hoping to make partial-wolf Bill MORE into wolf-Bill, instead of encouraging him to hang on to wizard-Bill - and Bill hasn't even had one full moon to assimilate all the changes. Why can't Bill just take out his anger and rage by going out to kill Death Eaters? Y'know, I'm still hoping for Alpha-Bill to whomp on Lupin... Have I told you how much your words inspire me to feel for the characters - rather, to feel "for" Bill and "against" Lupin? Yup, very good writing! I just hope you write a good death scene for Lupin!
Author's Response: This is Lee's chapter, but I enjoy your reviews so much, I have to butt in. Having Lupin and Bill avoid each other isn't really practical as they are both in the Order, and Lupin is friends with the Weasley family. Also, Bill has got to learn to control himself. What if he ran into a different werewolf and had no idea how to handle himself? I can't speak for Remus as he lives in Lee's mind, but I'm sure he has Bill's best interests at heart. ;-) -smoke
Author's Response: Yep, smoke has made all the good points. :) Alpha-Bill? Oh dear. No no no. Not the point of the story at all, alas - understandable to find such hopes expressed here at the Burrow, rather than at Wolfsbane, though! And Lupin and Bill avoiding each other not only isn't feasible - it wouldn't work. There are instincts at play here that go beyond physical proximity to each other. Hopefully the next few chapters will help explain more about all of this. Glad it is inspiring such passionate reactions! ~Lee
Great so far
Author's Response: Thanks!
AUGH!!!! Lupin isn't "Alpha Male" - he's just a jerk!! He's like a Death Eater in Order guise. Kill him, Bill! Oh, this Lupin makes me so mad every chapter I read in this series...
Author's Response: Come on June, tell us what you really think - lol! We are seeing a rather different side of Remus here, aren't we? I'm glad you're R&R'ing, and I hope you're enjoying. -smoke
AUGH!!!! Just kill him, Bill!! Don't submit to that lying "I'm not a liar" creep!! Selectively offering information or evading questions was not the same as lying. Grrrr......
Author's Response: Remus is just being rational, whereas Bill is not. You'll see. More explanations coming. :) ~Lee
Another juicy instalment! I'm not really seeing the joins between the writers here, how do you manage that?
Author's Response: how do you manage that?
I think it has to do with both our minds being in the same gutter. ;) Seriously, I don't know, other than to say that we do seem to think alike.
Thanks for the kind words!
Ungh, you melted me into a puddle. You made me pull a wicked witch of the east, but I was never green. And I personally think this is a much more pleasant way to go. Where's a fan when you need one? I never thought a man, or werewolf, just coming in his pants would be so erotic. I absolutely love your portrayal of Remus, although he honestly does scare me a bit, but you keep his scariness within the realm of unfathomable sexiness. I also love how no matter how hard Bill tries to gain control at the very least over himself, Remus has the ability to take that away within seconds. You really make the reader feel Bill's anxiety and desperation during those times. Gorgeous! Thank you so much for sharing this with us readers, and I can't wait until the next update, which hopefully is very soon.
Author's Response: Thank you for your very kind words. Don't you love the way Lee is writing Remus? *g* I wish I was that good! And poor Bill, I can identify with the thinking you've got it all together and then it falls apart in a split second. -smoke
This was so engrossing I forgot to breathe. Holy shit. This has to be one of the hottest stories I've read in a long time. The conflict between Remus and Bill and Bill and himself is... oh so good. I'm so happy this is turning into a multichaptered fic. How far do you think you will take it? Oh hell, I don't care, just please post another chapter soon. I love your writing.
Author's Response: Thanks for the nice words! This started as just a silly one shot I penned, but we are having fun turning it into a bit more than that. We originally anticipated five chapters, but it might be a bit more than that now, since Remus seems keen to draw out the situation... :) ~Lee